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So everyone knows how EA has their "online pass" system, right? And we all know how much everyone hates it, right?

Prepare to hate it even more: online passes can expire, even if they're in a brand new, unopened copy of a game.

http://kotaku.com/5864789/online-pass-c ... nt-says-ea

I'd be so pissed if I was the guy in the story. I'd probably put the game in an air-tight box, shit in it, and mail it to EA.

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Someone in the comments said replacement codes are free...

If so, I dont see the big deal.

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Yeah, if you buy an EA game well after its release, and the code has expired, they will give you one for free. Its happened before. No biggie, unless you're an anal retentive who simply HAS to have everything right now.

A day or two's inconvenience for a free code that you're entitled to? Sounds fair.

Now, if it were Activision... that'd be a different story. They'd just tell you to do one.

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Anyone else here getting the feeling that it's EAs year for the hate? Seriously, the collective bile of gamers just picks a completely random target in January, and all the press go apeshit whenever someone from that company so much as farts in the wrong key.

Yeah, EA did something.
OMFG DEY SO EVIL, BOYCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTT (Or Occupy, depending on how much of a minnie-moo-foo-foo you are)
But here's the perfectly reasonable, and responsible explanation for it.
OMG DEY SO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL


So lets have a quick run-down of the year.

Topic:
Origin - Personal Information - Yeah, it's up there with Facebook publicly not giving a fuck either.

Why it's stupid?
Look at Steam, and the amount of information that they gather and retain. Notice how they're gathering EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME INFORMATION. But because it's EA that are doing it, all of a sudden, there's a shitstorm that's lasted most of the year.


Topic:
Origin - Bans - LIEK OMG I WUZ BANNED FOR BEING A RACIST PRICK ON DA FORUMZ AND NOW CNT PLAY MAH BF3.

Why it's stupid?
Well, to be honest, if you're a minnie-moo-foo-foo on the forums, then chances are that you're not the kind of person that really should be playing multiplayer, just for that reason. It's pretty clear in the EULA that it'll go down like that, and it's also in the forum rules that you had to agree with. And if you had an old forum account that wasn't linked with Origin, then it tells you again before you link the accounts. Ignorance and laziness aren't a defence.


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New games requiring Origin - OMG IT'S INSTALLING SPYWAREZ!!!

Why it's stupid?
Once again, the Steam comparison. Remember HL2? Remember the Orange Box? Remember Portal? Remember TF2? Remember every Valve game released since Steam? Yeah, they all require Steam to run authentication. And all I remember from when HL2 came out was a couple of people whinging about the fact that you needed to be online ONCE to get the game activated. Not that it needed a distribution platform installing alongside it.


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BF3 - WAA NO FREE GAEM!

Why it's stupid?
Because BF1943 is actually being distributed, and has been for the last 3 weeks for the EU. Yes, the game wasn't included on the disc, but given that the thing is pretty rammed full of data anyway, and a second disc would certainly multiply manufacturing and shipping costs, then a digital download makes sense. Timing could have been better, but it's available.


And at that point, I got bored with Google and it showing me the same 4 stories for the first 15 pages.

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Anyone else here getting the feeling that it's EAs year for the hate? Seriously, the collective bile of gamers just picks a completely random target in January, and all the press go apeshit whenever someone from that company so much as farts in the wrong key.

Yeah, EA did something.
OMFG DEY SO EVIL, BOYCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTT (Or Occupy, depending on how much of a minnie-moo-foo-foo you are)
But here's the perfectly reasonable, and responsible explanation for it.
OMG DEY SO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL


So lets have a quick run-down of the year.

Topic:
Origin - Personal Information - Yeah, it's up there with Facebook publicly not giving a fuck either.

Why it's stupid?
Look at Steam, and the amount of information that they gather and retain. Notice how they're gathering EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME INFORMATION. But because it's EA that are doing it, all of a sudden, there's a shitstorm that's lasted most of the year.


Topic:
Origin - Bans - LIEK OMG I WUZ BANNED FOR BEING A RACIST PRICK ON DA FORUMZ AND NOW CNT PLAY MAH BF3.

Why it's stupid?
Well, to be honest, if you're a minnie-moo-foo-foo on the forums, then chances are that you're not the kind of person that really should be playing multiplayer, just for that reason. It's pretty clear in the EULA that it'll go down like that, and it's also in the forum rules that you had to agree with. And if you had an old forum account that wasn't linked with Origin, then it tells you again before you link the accounts. Ignorance and laziness aren't a defence.


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New games requiring Origin - OMG IT'S INSTALLING SPYWAREZ!!!

Why it's stupid?
Once again, the Steam comparison. Remember HL2? Remember the Orange Box? Remember Portal? Remember TF2? Remember every Valve game released since Steam? Yeah, they all require Steam to run authentication. And all I remember from when HL2 came out was a couple of people whinging about the fact that you needed to be online ONCE to get the game activated. Not that it needed a distribution platform installing alongside it.


Topic:
BF3 - WAA NO FREE GAEM!

Why it's stupid?
Because BF1943 is actually being distributed, and has been for the last 3 weeks for the EU. Yes, the game wasn't included on the disc, but given that the thing is pretty rammed full of data anyway, and a second disc would certainly multiply manufacturing and shipping costs, then a digital download makes sense. Timing could have been better, but it's available.


And at that point, I got bored with Google and it showing me the same 4 stories for the first 15 pages.


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Now, if it were Activision... that'd be a different story. They'd just tell you to do one.

How many times do I have to tell you people, Activision games don't have online passes :facepalm:

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I think the inconvenience is a total pain in the ass....why should I have to jump through fucking hoops to play my NEW game?

Just bullshit....I am not going to freak out about it....but, it is still bullshit.

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Now, if it were Activision... that'd be a different story. They'd just tell you to do one.

How many times do I have to tell you people, Activision games don't have online passes :facepalm:

Note how I said IF it were them... as in IF they did... :facepalm:

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Anyone else here getting the feeling that it's EAs year for the hate? Seriously, the collective bile of gamers just picks a completely random target in January, and all the press go apeshit whenever someone from that company so much as farts in the wrong key.

Yeah, EA did something.
OMFG DEY SO EVIL, BOYCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTT (Or Occupy, depending on how much of a minnie-moo-foo-foo you are)
But here's the perfectly reasonable, and responsible explanation for it.
OMG DEY SO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL


So lets have a quick run-down of the year.

Topic:
Origin - Personal Information - Yeah, it's up there with Facebook publicly not giving a fuck either.

Why it's stupid?
Look at Steam, and the amount of information that they gather and retain. Notice how they're gathering EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME INFORMATION. But because it's EA that are doing it, all of a sudden, there's a shitstorm that's lasted most of the year.


Topic:
Origin - Bans - LIEK OMG I WUZ BANNED FOR BEING A RACIST PRICK ON DA FORUMZ AND NOW CNT PLAY MAH BF3.

Why it's stupid?
Well, to be honest, if you're a minnie-moo-foo-foo on the forums, then chances are that you're not the kind of person that really should be playing multiplayer, just for that reason. It's pretty clear in the EULA that it'll go down like that, and it's also in the forum rules that you had to agree with. And if you had an old forum account that wasn't linked with Origin, then it tells you again before you link the accounts. Ignorance and laziness aren't a defence.


Topic:
New games requiring Origin - OMG IT'S INSTALLING SPYWAREZ!!!

Why it's stupid?
Once again, the Steam comparison. Remember HL2? Remember the Orange Box? Remember Portal? Remember TF2? Remember every Valve game released since Steam? Yeah, they all require Steam to run authentication. And all I remember from when HL2 came out was a couple of people whinging about the fact that you needed to be online ONCE to get the game activated. Not that it needed a distribution platform installing alongside it.


Topic:
BF3 - WAA NO FREE GAEM!

Why it's stupid?
Because BF1943 is actually being distributed, and has been for the last 3 weeks for the EU. Yes, the game wasn't included on the disc, but given that the thing is pretty rammed full of data anyway, and a second disc would certainly multiply manufacturing and shipping costs, then a digital download makes sense. Timing could have been better, but it's available.


And at that point, I got bored with Google and it showing me the same 4 stories for the first 15 pages.


There's some I gotta defend here.

The Bans: Being banned on the forums means you cant play ANY Origin games, no Madden, no BF, no Mass Effect, no Dragon Age. Hell I saw a guy being banned for questioning why there was a bug in Sims 3 that was supposed to be patched yet never was. If you have the physical copy with reciept, it just makes EA look worse, like theives. You can't tell me its right for preventing people from playing single player just because a mod was being a draconian dickhead.

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EA have gone on record as stating that this kind of thing does not happen.

Even though it obviously does.

And has.

And is.

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Nubnos wrote:
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Anyone else here getting the feeling that it's EAs year for the hate? Seriously, the collective bile of gamers just picks a completely random target in January, and all the press go apeshit whenever someone from that company so much as farts in the wrong key.

Yeah, EA did something.
OMFG DEY SO EVIL, BOYCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTT (Or Occupy, depending on how much of a minnie-moo-foo-foo you are)
But here's the perfectly reasonable, and responsible explanation for it.
OMG DEY SO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL


So lets have a quick run-down of the year.

Topic:
Origin - Personal Information - Yeah, it's up there with Facebook publicly not giving a fuck either.

Why it's stupid?
Look at Steam, and the amount of information that they gather and retain. Notice how they're gathering EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME INFORMATION. But because it's EA that are doing it, all of a sudden, there's a shitstorm that's lasted most of the year.


Topic:
Origin - Bans - LIEK OMG I WUZ BANNED FOR BEING A RACIST PRICK ON DA FORUMZ AND NOW CNT PLAY MAH BF3.

Why it's stupid?
Well, to be honest, if you're a minnie-moo-foo-foo on the forums, then chances are that you're not the kind of person that really should be playing multiplayer, just for that reason. It's pretty clear in the EULA that it'll go down like that, and it's also in the forum rules that you had to agree with. And if you had an old forum account that wasn't linked with Origin, then it tells you again before you link the accounts. Ignorance and laziness aren't a defence.


Topic:
New games requiring Origin - OMG IT'S INSTALLING SPYWAREZ!!!

Why it's stupid?
Once again, the Steam comparison. Remember HL2? Remember the Orange Box? Remember Portal? Remember TF2? Remember every Valve game released since Steam? Yeah, they all require Steam to run authentication. And all I remember from when HL2 came out was a couple of people whinging about the fact that you needed to be online ONCE to get the game activated. Not that it needed a distribution platform installing alongside it.


Topic:
BF3 - WAA NO FREE GAEM!

Why it's stupid?
Because BF1943 is actually being distributed, and has been for the last 3 weeks for the EU. Yes, the game wasn't included on the disc, but given that the thing is pretty rammed full of data anyway, and a second disc would certainly multiply manufacturing and shipping costs, then a digital download makes sense. Timing could have been better, but it's available.


And at that point, I got bored with Google and it showing me the same 4 stories for the first 15 pages.


There's some I gotta defend here.

The Bans: Being banned on the forums means you cant play ANY Origin games, no Madden, no BF, no Mass Effect, no Dragon Age. Hell I saw a guy being banned for questioning why there was a bug in Sims 3 that was supposed to be patched yet never was. If you have the physical copy with reciept, it just makes EA look worse, like theives. You can't tell me its right for preventing people from playing single player just because a mod was being a draconian dickhead.


I wanna actually see this. I can almost guarantee you that this wasn't just innocent questioning. No moderator for a company's forums is gonna be that much of an asshole and still keep his position.

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Yes it is.

No lie.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12 ... e-edition/

Thats just the start.

Google search for "EA forum ban can't play games" and prepare to be shocked.

EDIT: This guy got banned for saying "Have you sold your soul to the EA devil?" on the BioWare forums.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic ... /6459941/1

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I can't tell if they're getting banned from playing their games entirely or just the online portions. It kinda sounds like there's some kind of automated watchdog handing out bans, considering that people who quote stuff are getting banned out of hand, and that there's no communication about whatsoever.

For the people that are being erroneously banned, this sucks, and I hope shit gets straightened out.

As far as the assholes go, if it's just the online multiplayer they're getting banned from, then yeah, they should get banned from online multiplayer. Even if they're being prevented from activating a game they've bought, I think they should have their money refunded, but I still support EA's decision to tell them to piss off and be an asshole somewhere else. If they're somehow having access to the games they already own and play entirely restricted, though, that's bullshit, but I still think it's well-deserved bullshit.

Basically, I'm just enjoying this idea that a company is, inadvertently or intentionally, making it clear that being an asshole doesn't pay.

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Does anyone really think this is surprising?

Seriously, who here was shocked to hear EA did this? If you were, you must be a very trusting, gullible person.

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