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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:21 pm 
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Okay, so I am indeed going to make this a feature.

During a conversation about LittleBigPlanet 2, I talked about how I loved building levels, and talked about my brothel level and the monster truck and the mech that walks, and someone said "Hey, it'd be cool if you could remake the first level of "Alex Kidd In Miracle World" in LittleBigPlanet!".

The general consensus was yes, it would be.

And I thought "Well, that'd be a piece of piss now theres the water tool..." and so I set myself a challenge.

TO CREATE THE FIRST LEVEL OF "ALEX KIDD IN MIRACLE WORLD" IN LITTLEBIGPLANET!

First of all, I had to get the original level map, which you can see below.

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Then, using the patterns of the textures, I simply drew a grid over the top of it so it would be easy enough to put from paper to LBP. I don't have that to hand, but I'm sure you can picture it. Using this, I discovered that the map was 120 "blocks" high by 48 "blocks" wide.

Then, using the LBP creator, I brought up the grid, measured the grids to Sackboy's height (one large block = sackboy), and then made a background 120x48 and painted it blue.

Ensuring that the depth of the level was only one "plane" wide (its usually three), I then simply made the walls with a square tool, using a triangle to cut the corners. The floating platforms were simply sculpted and then "glued" to the background (done by selecting the platform and then holding down X) to give it that floating look.

Eventually, I had this little lot...

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As you can see, the bottom two panels required water, so that was just a case of setting the water tool to the right height and adding some "bubble generators" to prevent players from drowning when they play the game.

And that little lot turned out to look like this - a barebones, block-for-block copy of Mount Eternal, the first stage of Alex Kidd In Miracle World.

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Check back next time, as we begin adding some vegetation and "breakable" blocks to the equation...

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I think it's awesome. Which is why I said so on facebook.

And then made fun of Ax. :mrgreen:

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Updated first post as this is going to be made a feature.

Gotta say, I'm well chuffed with this. :D

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Wow. I've played neither game, but I've gotta give credit where credit is due, that's jawsome.

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I would like to see what you can do with this when little big planet 2 comes out.

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You know Carl... you've been trying to convince me to get a PS3 for ages.

Now this is serious LBP PS3 p0rn. This just might convince me.

*breaks into a Alex Kidd dance*

*breaks out a big fist*

*closes the curtains*

That is really good work. Well done and thanks for the text alerting me to this beauty!


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You know Carl... you've been trying to convince me to get a PS3 for ages.

Now this is serious LBP PS3 p0rn. This just might convince me.

*breaks into a Alex Kidd dance*

*breaks out a big fist*

*closes the curtains*

That is really good work. Well done and thanks for the text alerting me to this beauty!


I knew if there was one thing that'd get your arse back on the boards, it'd be something like this. :D

Get a PS3 and I swear, you shall be the ONLY person I play it co-op with. :yes:

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UPDATE TIME!

So not a lot has happened since last night. I gained two levels in MAG, and after trying to go to sleep, I decided to work off some awake and do some more tinkering with this level.

First things first, I needed to add some clouds to the background, so it was straight to the Stickers tools and select one. First, I just selected a white circle and made my own, but they were too big for the job. Eventually I found some clouds, so thought I'd use them. :D

I input them as close to the grid positions as I could, a few you can see here:

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Next issue I had was that the camera was just too darned close, meaning you couldn't always see the whole platform. The little black thing you can see in the next picture is a Camera Tool, which allows you to set an "active radius", which activates the camera when your character steps into it, and it allows you to set the camera distance/angle while in the active radius. I placed a few around the level to ensure Sackboy was ALWAYS inside an active radius, and the zoom as far out as possible.

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Next was to change the rock pattern. I originally used a standard stone tool to form the rocks, but using the Material Changer tool, you can select whole pieces of scenery and change its design and even the material its made from. I changed the whole thing to a more rugged-rock like pattern, and rather than using thousands of pattern stickers for grass, I just used some more rock, but this time used Embossed Jade to give it that green colour and grass-like feel.

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In the water section, there was a gap at the top which was big enough to swim through, allowing you to bypass the hazards that would soon feature. Using the Stone Tool, I just shrunk the grid size to small (4x4 small grid = 2x2 medium grid = 1 block large grid) and made it thin enough to block you but wide enough to see.

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And thats it so far. Just minor cosmetic details. However, I did dick about with making "breakable" blocks, and my theory worked just fine. Unfortunately theres a LOT of blocks to put in, so I'm saving that for now.

But, I then decided to whip out the camera and film the level, so you can see what it looks like for yourselves. Note the Old Snake sackboy outfit at the start, changing to Guile, then to Zangief, and then the level itself. I go on to show off the other levels I made (way back when before I actually got good) and just generally dick about for a bit.

Enjoy, until next time!


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SO THE LEVEL IS FINISHED!

Well, the level itself is finished. Still got the enemies to put in, but as far as layout and breakable blocks and bubbles (in place of money bags) go, its all finished. Let me give you a rundown of whats been done.

As you can see in the photos below, the breakable blocks are in fact dissolve blocks.

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Now, for those who don't know, dissolve blocks are a grabbable material that act pretty much like polystyrene (which floats, is light, etc), but once triggered by a switch, they dissolve into nothing. On each of the blocks I have placed a "grab switch" - this has two parts: the item you attach it to, and the item you connect the wire to.

In this case, I attached the switch to the block, and then connected the wire to itself. Hence, when I grab the dissolve block, it activates itself, and dissolves. Simple!

PROTIP: Want a load of the same complicated item but don't want to have to remake it over and over? Then make one, click on it using the lasso tool, hit L3 (the left stick) and it will copy it. Press X to paste over and over and over...

The bubbles are just normal bubbles, but have just been enlarged to fit a 1 block area.

PROTIP: When you place an object, you hold X to glue it in place. Hold X, and it will glue it on all sides that are touching something else. However, grabbing a block and holding a direction on the left stick while pressing X will ONLY glue it to whatever it is touching in the direction you hold, no matter if its touching anything else! Holding L2 while holding X will ONLY glue it to the background.

Anyone who has played Alex Kidd In Miracle World will remember the little block that, if stepped on, makes a ghost appear and track you down. Well, I figured that while this is a remake of Alex Kidd, I still wanted to keep some of that LBP flair, so I made this bit with a difference.

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What you see there is the middle of the platform has been hollwed out and a block with a skull sticker plastered on it. It is tethered on a bouncy elastic band and held in place with two dissolvable blocks.

Once the switch is stepped on, the dissolve blocks disappear, releasing the skull, and activating a ghost "woooo!" sound - which is the little blue disc on the faceplate there. This faceplate is actually a thin plate that fits infront of the main platform, hiding what lays underneath. If this was glued, it would have stuck to the ghost too, stopping it dropping, so I placed a bolt at either side, and then made then invisible by editing the bolts visibility to "Off". Here's the finished product (without the skull sticker I placed on the wall to warn you, unfortunately)

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Here we see the final set of platforms before the big drop. Same as before, blocks copied and glued to the background.

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And finally, the underwater section. As you can see, the blocks underneath are exactly as they should be, along with prize bubble. The ending is just past the last wall.

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And that, ladles and jellyspoons, is that. Level complete. I've still got the enemies and a few checkpoints (where you restart if you die) to install, but those will come later. For those with LittleBigPlanet, I'll get the basic level uploaded for you all to check out, but expect it to be replaced once the enemies are in.

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That's absolutely amazing!

Is there any way that you can include the level music?


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Hah, he posts again! :D

I think I could recreate the music, if the music creator is how I think it is. Never tried it but seen how others do it.

Also, latest update, I've scrapped the whole fucking thing and started again. I didn't like the way that the whole level seemed to be "bigger" than the original, with some platforms not being reachable when they should be.

So I started from scratch, using the medium grid instead of the big grid, and now everything is a whole lot more manageable and reachable. It didn't take half as long to create this time, not just because its smaller, but cos I knew how it was built.

So the pictures above are pretty much redundant. I'll keep them for v1, but right now, we're into Alex Kidd In LittleBigPlanet World v2, and it'll be in beta testing stages hopefully tonight. :D

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Good news, I can totally reproduce the music from Alex Kidd.

Bad news, the way you have to build the music means that I can't have it as a level background music. I could just have a level where you ride along a track while the music plays (if you look at other LBP music levels you'll see what I mean), but if I stick the music track at the top of the level out of the way, you can't hear it when playing the level itself. Not happy.

That said, work continues!

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Hello.

I'm working on Alex Kidd remake too! :)
You can play my level, there are a lot of prizes you can use in your level if you wish.
Give some feedback about it if you get time.

lbp.me: http://lbp.me/v/x6p7dk

See the video here:


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AWESOME!!! :D

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Wow... that just downright puts mine to shit.

Not that thats a bad thing, cos those levels are absolutely gorgeous! And that outfit too! Outstanding!

Also, hello new guy! I'm assuming you found us because of this thread?

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